tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post2173000522020056901..comments2023-10-22T10:50:25.309+03:00Comments on Degrees of Freedom: The University of Jordan: A Different OverviewTalahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17308820896939744575noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-66476459502915238222008-08-10T18:07:00.000+03:002008-08-10T18:07:00.000+03:00Khouloud, thanks for sharing your story, mine is c...Khouloud, thanks for sharing your story, mine is close to yours, I signed up for FET because back then math and physics were my favorite subjects, I like to assemble stuff and build but I discovered that I don't like motors, pumps, cylinders, sensors and interfacing, I was not fascinated with LEDS and transistors or technical manuals and control classes, I didnt know that the whole major was about 2 classes i take in my 4 th year, I lost interest in it somewhere in my 3rd year, it was bad, I hated how everything was done in JUTalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308820896939744575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-33446986054644810042008-08-09T23:55:00.000+03:002008-08-09T23:55:00.000+03:00Hehehe tayyeb waiting, as for your question about ...Hehehe tayyeb waiting, as for your question about why are students careless, well, for many reasons, some of which revolve around thaqafet il 3aib, every parent wants their kid to study Med., Eng. or law, other students decide on what they want to study based on the faculty il afya3, others base their decision over the faculty their other friends get accepted in and the rest just look for majors they can easily pass, ya3ni bikoun youmo aswad illi naje7 tawjihi w be7ki la abouh biddi adros riyada aw adkhol ma3had museeqa aw biddi adros falsafeh for instance, when applying to the university w bi my first application, my first choice of major was philosophy and my parents freaked out, FALSAFEH!! INTI NA2SEK!! Then I tore that application and filled a new one, my first choice was psychology and my parents freaked out again, they didn't tell me not to study that unlike other parents but they were disappointed, I wanted to study Journalism bas mu mawjoudeh bil JU, so I finally asked them, shu bidkom adros? I'm lost now! 7akali abouy baba aish ma biddek, ana wala 3omri batdakhal bi shu 7ada min wladi biddo yodros :D I finally decided on majoring in Law, which was the biggest mistake I ever made and even though I was an A student my whole life I'm barely passing courses now, and it doesn't bother me, ya3ni I became careless, my parents kept telling me to switch majors, adros ayya ishi biddi iyyah 7atta law falsafeh after takhbeesi bil 7uqouq but a university student reaches a point where he just wants to graduate, that stage is uaually on the second year, so that's it, students need help when deciding on what they want to study because having kids study things they're passionate about is what determines their level of interest an thus success in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-71137736471927025662008-08-09T00:58:00.000+03:002008-08-09T00:58:00.000+03:00Asal, "this is a piece of paper one should have at...Asal, <BR/><BR/>"this is a piece of paper one should have attitude" so real and so true, its sad, the focus is on GPA scoring without knowledge and minimal work possible, the end result is high grades, bad engineers, with few exceptions, there is a huge disconnect between what we are supposed to learn, what teachers teach, what we actually learn, and what going out to work require us to have knowledge of.<BR/><BR/>Azzam,<BR/><BR/>I joined JU in 2002, since then lots of things got improved that were irritating, such as getting wireless internet access covering most of the uni, removing manual semester registration with a home access registration system, longer library working hours (10 pm), fixing main under-tunnels which was a misery, allowing "a little bit" of room for technical voluntary student work but its very stiff and limited, no allowed political work watsoever, as for the investments part, true, at some point, it happened, past 2001 when the parallel program got open, there was a sharp increase in student numbers and student quality and worsening teachers quality, a rise in tuition, no personal revenue other than making the uni mostly better looking , new complexes got built like the IT faculty, Student.com facility, the new financial department complex, the arts faculty, the language center, the UN university ( i dont know if its part of JU/Budget) new shops complex towards the humanitarian faculties and there are more coming i guess <BR/><BR/>again, there are stuff getting improved, mostly administrative, eye friendly and human convenient, but academically, nope; not much change, no REAL technology integration, no analysis, no research that goes beyond google for BSc BA students, no discussions or academic activities that are course related / political correctness oriented , anything thought enhancing that is knowledge, pure deep knowledge, not for grades, not for politics. what i want to say that a university can't work with PR driven initiatives were money is jotted in one place and you expect creativity to boom, it works in small groups, a Dr - student relationship and a vision. when both sides want to do something, its about il wa7ad ykoon 3am bibnee ishi, mish mawjood w beeji 3al fadi w bisof 7adi bikhalles hal course inno wallah ana bil urdonieh!. students don't to be molded solely for market needs, they need to enjoy working on something @ school, experience learning, As for who is in uni's administration, I really don't care, I'm seeking that who is in position to fulfill his/her duties and maybe pointing it out would help, there are good people, be positive. <BR/><BR/>Khouloud, <BR/><BR/>There are great teachers, and there are great teachers leaving JU as well, and there are teachers who refuse to leave JU though there is a sticker on their foreheads that says " ana Dr 7maaaar w ma biseer adarres " <BR/>JU has unused potential and another wasted potential . students are to blame too, true, but the important thing to focus is "why are they so careless" ???<BR/><BR/>JU is the most important place in Jordan, even more important than the Jordanian parliament, but i believe that the need of control is what gave it the print of lets keep the kids dumb. we dont need thinkers, we dont need rebels, the way its administrated made it this way. thats why studying elsewhere is more knowledge-oriented. <BR/><BR/>imti7an il kafa2a for me was the cherry on top. will speak of it in the coming post, you will see the result file for my department 3ashan ted7akiTalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308820896939744575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-38690616889530232552008-08-09T00:17:00.000+03:002008-08-09T00:17:00.000+03:00HI! Visit my blog. Have a nice day!HI! Visit my blog. Have a nice day!fiamma venetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08059292708289607945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-82330114531766316462008-08-08T17:39:00.000+03:002008-08-08T17:39:00.000+03:00Stundents' academic levels are measured with their...Stundents' academic levels are measured with their scores on competency tests, that's for one. The following is copied and pasted:<BR/><BR/> تصنَّف نتائج " امتحان الكفاءة الجامعية" على خمسة مستويات كما يلي :<BR/><BR/>1. مستوى الطالب بالنسبة لأقرانه في نفس الجامعة.<BR/><BR/>2. مستوى الطالب بالنسبة لأقرانه في نفس التخصص في الجامعات الأردنية الأخرى.<BR/><BR/>3. مستوى الطالب بالنسبة لأقرانه في نفس التخصص في الجامعات على مستوى العالم.<BR/><BR/>4. مستوى الجامعة بالنسبة للجامعات الأردنية .<BR/><BR/>5. مستوى الجامعة بالنسبة لجامعات العالم ككل.<BR/><BR/>JU has been getting the highest scores among all Jordanian and Arabic universities.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of devoted intellectuals working in this specific university, students who seak more than just to get a GPA of 2 (Ana mish minhom) manage to excel in university and what is after because JU and it's staff have a lot to offer but it can't be forced upon students, for example, JU has the largest library and offers a lot of different activities, I can safely speak for the students of my faculty when I say that our professors care, a lot at times, but they do, and they bigazzizou il wa7ad at the first sign of interest in Law.<BR/>Anyway, your posts are always a good read because of your objectivity and the fact that you discuss very important issues and offer solutions, unlike Azzam and the likes of him who jump at every opportunity to turn this into a "lets bash Jordan and the king indirectly" sleepover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-22979589102818812242008-08-07T14:13:00.000+03:002008-08-07T14:13:00.000+03:00when you give control of a once fine Jordanian aca...when you give control of a once fine Jordanian academic institution to retards what do you expect? let's face it, during the late king hussain's reigen, Jordan was on the rise. this is not longer the case. now jordan is being run like an investment portfoli and progress is measured in the prosperity of those who manage this portfopli. cheap slogans aside, this is the most unpatriotic "elite" that ever governed Jordan. just look at the developmental indicators. while criminally incompetents like Salah Gallab still speak of investment and commerce, all the while academician, health, corruption, and other human development indicators are falling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-64152354251630362092008-08-07T08:47:00.000+03:002008-08-07T08:47:00.000+03:00Measure of success ,I think UJ is intentionally ig...Measure of success ,<BR/>I think UJ is intentionally ignoring having such a measure , cuz i am pretty sure if we had one,UJ will suck bad time,actually if you have a little chat with a some average students @ UJ you will notice how students here aren't getting the feeling that this does really matter,they don't even believe in the importance or even the effect of the quality of education they are are getting on their future,most of them deal with this as a way to get the piece of paper they should have.<BR/><BR/>Frankly,i don't blame them to think this way , it is just like you said,no one even cares about what are they doing , pay for your tuition and keep it over 2 (which is not pretty hard btw)and you are the perfect student,actually the best way for student to get some attention from this "academic institution" is to drop GPA below 2 ,other wise,keep walking my friend !!!!Asalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024149058186355100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-84662001774338105202008-08-07T08:45:00.000+03:002008-08-07T08:45:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Asalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024149058186355100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-82044316898905652552008-08-06T22:45:00.000+03:002008-08-06T22:45:00.000+03:00Hareega, UJ being there since 66 has its pros, gra...Hareega, UJ being there since 66 has its pros, graduates status after graduation is not measurable as far as i know. the university won't take an action unless there is a strategic need for change or a complaint. believe me on this one.Talahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308820896939744575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9128603583355750172.post-79503883766098063132008-08-06T19:18:00.000+03:002008-08-06T19:18:00.000+03:00They rely on how old the university is, which actu...They rely on how old the university is, which actually counts aalways as a factor, also how its graduates are doing.Hareegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506185925815988104noreply@blogger.com